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- Mr. Marzullo made a motion
- SITE PLAN RENT-A-RIDE 8163 BREWERTON ROAD PROPOSED RENTAL CAR BUSINESS IANUZI ROMANS
- SKETCH PLAN ISLAND HOLLOW ISLAND ROAD (TAX MAP NO. 054.-01-05.1) HOUSING DEVELOPMENT TWO PLUS FOUR MANAGEMENT
- Mr. Abbey made a motion
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The Planning Board of the Town of Cicero held a meeting on Wednesday, October 21, 2015 at 6:30 p.m. in the Town Hall at 8236 Brewerton Road, Cicero, New York 13039. Agenda: --Pledge of Allegiance --Approval of the Minutes from the October 7, 2015 Meeting (approved)
--Site Plan, Rent-A-Ride, 8163 Brewerton Road, Proposed Rental Car Business, Ianuzi & Romans (approved) --Zone Change Recommendation, Savannah Civil SiteWork, LLC, 6054 E Taft Road, General Commercial to General Commercial Plus, Savannah Civil SiteWork, LLC/Ianuzi & Romans (approved) --Excavation/Fill Permit, RWA Associates/Vector, Island Road (Tax Map No. 054.-01-07.2), Proposed Re-Grading, Ianzui & Romans (to return) --Sketch Plan, Island Hollow, Island Road (Tax Map No. 054.-01-05.1), Housing Development, Two Plus Four Management (to return)
Mr. Germain: Anyone wishing to speak for or against the project would be given an opportunity to be heard. Anyone wishing to make any comments would be recognized and asked to approach the podium and provide their name and address for the record. Only the comments from the person recognized to speak at the podium would be considered. Please do not simply shout comments from the audience as they are not subject to recording and will not be part of the public record. Chairman Smith opened the public hearing at 6:35pm. Chairman Smith: Anyone who would like to speak for, against or comment on the proposed subdivision, please approach the podium at this time. No speakers approached the podium. Chairman Smith closed the public hearing at 6:36pm. Chairman Smith: Do you have anything that you would like to add? The Onondaga County Planning Board has some proposed modifications. They county highway must be consulted before the driveway work. The fence and gates must be moved out of the right of way. They are in the county right of way now. Mr. Bethka: When the tower went through, they put in the right of way. Chairman Smith: The fence and the gate are in the county right of way. Verizon needs to move that. Just out of the right of way. That is on your survey. Mr. Bethka: OK. Chairman Smith: Mr. Germain, do you need to add anything? Mr. Germain: No, you can do a conditional approval if you want and include that they have to move the fence and gate from the county right of way or leave it up to the county for their enforcement. Chairman Smith: Any discussion on whether we want to include that they have to move the fence and gate or leave that out of ours and let the county deal with it. Mr. Honors: I would leave it to the county. Chairman Smith: I agree, I think it is a county issue. Chairman Smith: Mr. Germain, will you please propose a resolution for adoption as lead agency. Mr. Germain: You are going to move for the adoption of a resolution that the Planning Board of the Town of Cicero assume the role of Lead Agency pursuant to the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act. Chairman Smith: That is in the form of a motion. Seconded by Mr. Honors. Chairman called a vote. In favor:5 Opposed: 0 Abstained: 0 Motion approved unanimously Mr. Ruscitto read: Be it further resolved that the Planning Board of the Town of Cicero hereby determines based upon the applicant's completed environmental assessment, the information presented by the applicant, the information contained in the Planning Board's Engineer's Review Letter, the information contained in the Onondaga County Planning Board's referral, if any, the Planning Board's personal knowledge of the Site, and all other information presented and proceedings had herein that the proposed action will not have a significant effect on the environment and that this resolution shall constitute a negative declaration for the purposes of Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law of the State of New York. Further the Planning Board Chairman is authorized to complete environmental assessment form in accordance with the findings and proceeding had herein. That is in the form of a motion. Chairman Smith seconded and called a vote. In favor:5 Opposed: 0 Abstained: 0 Motion approved unanimously Chairman Smith: Mr. Germain, will you please construct a motion adopting the resolution. Mr. Germain: You are going to move for the adoption of a resolution approving the subdivision application known as Bethka Property, 6709 E. Taft Road, 2 Lots, said plan last dated October 16, 2015: . 1. The applicant is hereby advised that Pursuant to Section 185-6 Subsection F of the code the applicant has 90 days from approval to file the map. If the applicant missed the 90 day filing deadline this approval will have expired 2. The applicant is further notified that the Chairman of the Planning Board may delay signing of the final plan until the chairman verifies that the applicant has executed any and all necessary agreements with the Town and that all security or undertakings are in place. Chairman Smith: That is in the form of a motion. Seconded by Mr. Ruscitto. In favor:5 Opposed: 0 Abstained: 0 Motion approved unanimously Chairman Smith: You understand that you have to get those maps in. They have to be signed and filed with the county clerk’s office within 90 days. Ms. Green: I understand.
Chairman Smith: Can you go down through our questions? Mr. Coyer: The sign on front of the building. Mr. Fernandez is here to discuss it. He has an existing sign that he is going to try to use. Now he has a box sign with letters. About 20 square feet. Smaller than before. Little cleaner look. Other issue is you wanted to see the exact location of the spaces that would be used for the rental cars. They are now highlighted. 20 in back and 7 along the side. Customer parking in front. Other issue is the entrance. Chairman Smith: Which are the display areas? In the front? Mr. Fernandez: Not in the front. Mr. Coyer: The County wanted us to remove the entrance but we will try to make an entrance only and I have signs proposed. Do not enter on the signs. Enter only. A couple more signs will say exit only. Finally, we are going to show some proposed concrete walks. I had extended the concrete walk out to Sunset and extended to the other side of the driveway. Any comments? Chairman Smith: The driveway on Sunset, we are proposing that we are going to restrict that? I think you need a full service driveway. Mr. Coyer: OK, we can take those signs down. Chairman Smith: Does the applicant want them? Mr. Fernandez: Yes, I do. Chairman Smith: I am assuming you will need some time to have the sidewalks installed? Mr. Parrish: They will need DOT approval. Mr. Coyer: I sent them to Betsy today. Mr. Parrish: What is the sidewalk width? Mr. Coyer: 4 feet because there is a utility pole in the way. Mr. Parrish: If DOT has an issue, they will address it during the permit process. Mr. Honors: Only 3 proposed parking in front plus one handicapped? That is enough? Chairman Smith: How many cars to you propose renting out? Mr. Fernandez: Probably 11 or 12 out at all times. There are usually never more than 7 or 8 on the lot. Chairman Smith: Do you do airport shuttles? Mr. Fernandez: Yes, we do drop off and pick up. Mr. Ruscitto: The sidewalk is going to continue out to Sunset? Mr. Coyer: Yes. Chairman Smith: Get rid of the exit only signs. Mr. Coyer: I will do that now. Mr. Honors: What is the total square footage of the sign? Mr. Coyer: 20 plus 43 square foot which would be 63 square foot. Chairman Smith: Mr. Germain, will you please craft a resolution approving this project? Mr. Germain: You are going to move for the adoption of a resolution that the Planning Board of the Town of Cicero assume the role of Lead Agency pursuant to the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act. Chairman Smith: That is in the form of a motion. Mr. Abbey seconded the motion and Chairman Smith called a vote: In favor: 5 Opposed: 0 Abstained: 0 Motion approved unanimously Mr. Ruscitto read: Be it further resolved that the Planning Board of the Town of Cicero hereby determines based upon the applicant's completed environmental assessment, the information presented by the applicant, the information contained in the Planning Board's Engineer's Review Letter, the information contained in the Onondaga County Planning Board's referral, if any, the Planning Board's personal knowledge of the Site, and all other information presented and proceedings had herein that the proposed action will not have a significant effect on the environment and that this resolution shall constitute a negative declaration for the purposes of Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law of the State of New York. Further the Planning Board Chairman is authorized to complete environmental assessment form in accordance with the findings and proceeding had herein. That is in the form of a motion. Seconded by Chairman Smith. In favor: 5 Opposed: 0 Abstained: 0 Motion approved unanimously Chairman Smith: Mr. Germain, will you please construct a resolution approving this project? Mr. Germain: You are going to move for the adoption of a resolution approving the Site Plan application known as Rent-A-Ride, 8163 Brewerton Road, Proposed rental car business. The Site Plan last revised October 21, 2015. This approval is strictly conditioned on the following: 1 The color schemes and renderings and/or elevations as presented by the applicant to the planning board in regard to this application shall be incorporated by reference into this site plan and the board's approval thereof. Accordingly the actual project must substantially conform to the elevations as presented herein. Chairman Smith: That is in the form of a motion. Seconded by Mr. Marzullo. The Chairman called a vote:
Mr. Marzullo: The farm house that is on the site. What is that being used for? Mr. Coyer: I’m sorry, I don’t know. I am not sure if they are keeping that or not. That will be addressed during the site plan. Chairman Smith: Mr. Germain, can you propose a resolution making referral to Town Board? Mr. Germain: You are going to move for the adoption of a resolution recommending the application of Savannah Civil SiteWork, LLC, 6054 E. Taft Road, General Commercial to General Commercial Plus to the Town Board. Chairman Smith: That is in the form of a motion. Seconded by Mr. Honors. Chairman called a vote. In favor: 5 Opposed: 0 Abstained: 0 Motion approved unanimously EXCAVATION/FILL PERMIT RWA ASSOCIATES/VECTOR ISLAND ROAD (TAX MAP NO. 054.-01-07.2) PROPOSED RE-GRADING IANUZI & ROMANS Tim Coyer, Representative Ianuzi & Romans Chairman Smith: Just to refresh the Board’s memory, a couple years ago, the Board passed a permit requirement. 3 years ago, we started working with this applicant to clean up the site and bring it into compliance. Mr. coyer: There was a lot of fill brought in previously, about 5 acres. They are looking to flatten it out and regrade it. They are not taking any material out. They are not brining any material in. There is a swale proposed. They are not touching the soil pile. They are going to flatten out the site. Chairman Smith: This seems to be mostly engineering Mark, we can’t do an approval until you look at the SWPPP. Mr. Parrish: This is just a construction stage process, part of SWPPP. Chairman Smith: We will set this down for next meeting for determination. SKETCH PLAN ISLAND HOLLOW ISLAND ROAD (TAX MAP NO. 054.-01-05.1) HOUSING DEVELOPMENT TWO PLUS FOUR MANAGEMENT Tim Coyer, Representative Ianuzi & Romans; Sue Kimmel and David Kimmel, Two Plus Four Management; Michael Bragman Chairman Smith: This is strictly for the Planning Board to understand what is being proposed. This came in about two weeks ago and we did have a meeting then. Mr. Coyer: She is handing out the new sketch plan. I am here because our company did the original work on Island Road. We are familiar with the property. It is about 49 acres. They are looking to divide the property up for rental purposes. They will subdivide the property into 3 parcels. One on the east side with senior housing. Right now, senior housing has 36 units. Another parcel behind that will be 58 units. The final parcel will be in the back. You will note that all the roads are private roads. We will not have an access road. They will connect the private roads. All zoned RM. Right now, lot 2 is where senior housing is, 3.6 acres. The other parcel is about 11.3 acres. If they fully develop the entire property, they would be allowed to develop about 300 units. They are looking to develop 94 units. They are not maxing out by any means. Chairman Smith: Will you be utilizing 278 clustering? Mr. Coyer: No, we would be going without that. Chairman Smith: Good, because for those of you that might not remember, the Town Board did pass the clustering law. Mr. Coyer: Please understand that a lot of these numbers are plus or minus. It all hinges on easements and restrictive areas. Lots might get a little bigger but not much. This is very preliminary. Chairman Smith: I did want to get this on so we could all have an opportunity to make comments. Mr. Coyer: We are going to run subdivision and cycling at the same time. Mr. Abbey: This was originally approved for 300 units? Mr. Coyer: 200 units back in 2011. Chairman Smith: Ownership is all rental units? Mr. Coyer: Yes. Chairman Smith: Restrictions on use of property? Just so we know how the leasing goes. Mr. Kimmel: What we are proposing is the senior housing and family housing, a multi-generational project. We are going to be doing most of the maintenance on the property. A lot of time, when you have townhouses, the renters take care of the maintenance. We are going to take care of all of the maintenance ourselves. The lawn will be mowed to our standards. We will take care of all of the shoveling and snowplowing. All residents will be responsible for is their front landing and back porch. It will all look uniform. Chairman Smith: The community building in the front, what will that be used for? Mr. Kimmel: It will be for the rental community’s use. It will be open set hours. Families can rent it out for parties, etc. They will have to put down a damage deposit. It will also include our rental office and on-site laundry facilities. Chairman Smith: Would there be a site manager? Mr. Kimmel: Yes, full time. Chairman Smith: The same for senior housing? Mr. Kimmel: Yes but the community room and laundry will be housed inside the senior housing. Some like activity, some don’t. We include it in the building so the seniors don’t have to walk outside in the cold. Chairman Smith: All private driveways? Mr. Coyer: No driveways to the building but all parking lots will be maintained by us. Mr. Kimmel: There will be 28 3-bedroom units, 32 2-bedroom units, 34 1-bedroom units for a total of 94 units. Mr. Marzullo: 6 parking lots typical? Is that enough space? Mr. Kimmel: Yes, since they are spread out along the properties, from our experience, this is enough parking. Ms. Kimmel: Do you want us to take a look at additional parking? One of our major goals is creating as much green space as possible. Mr. Marzullo: Do you have a similar layout elsewhere? Mr. Kimmel: Yes, in Sidney we have something similar but those have driveways. Chairman Smith: You have 24 garages planned. Mr. Kimmel: yes., they will be available to rent to residents of our rentals for an additional separate rental fee. Chairman Smith: Are they available to seniors? Available to someone that is not a tenant? Mr. Kimmel: Yes, they are available to seniors but they are not available to those that are not tenants. Only for residents of the project. Mr. Marzullo: Are the parking spots assigned? Mr. Kimmel: No. We want to avoid the problem of someone parking on someone else’s spot. Ms. Kimmel: I want to refer to the funding sources and what our timetable is. We are applying to the State of NY on December 3rd for 5 different sources of financing. There is no more single source. We are looking to get low income housing tax credits covering incomes from 60%. Asking for state low income tax credits up to 90%. New program for middle income housing program up to 130%. Mr. Kimmel: For a 4 person family, the minimum income for 60% would be $41,000. At maximum level is $89,050 per year. This is true working people housing, not rental subsidy. They will have to make a minimum of $19,525.00 because the state says you can’t pay more than 48% of your income for housing. Chairman Smith: Who is going to occupy these homes? Income levels are not an issue for this Board. Mr. Germain: Our concern is not who occupies the units. Our concern is occupancy residential, how traffic will operate, etc. Ms. Kimmel: On the question of ownership. We are working with Michael Bragman. We are forming a partnership with him. Private ownership. Deed from the State for 50 years. We are not selling the property. I am the developer. I am also the president of Two Plus Four Contracting and the president of Two Plus Four Management. If you have a problem, anytime, it is me. I am not coming in and then leaving. It is me. There is a bit of a comfort level when I can say it will be me from start to finish. We are the owners. We are the people doing this project. Our reputation is everything. Chairman Smith: They initially came in with discussion about just townhouses and I asked for senior housing. There is a significant need. I appreciate the fact that you are also adding some senior housing in here so we can accommodate our senior citizens so they can stay in the community. Mr. Kimmel: We did make the decision to going up to 90% AMI to reach more seniors who normally wouldn’t qualify for our property. This will expand that. Chairman Smith: You already have a waiting list for your Toll Road facility? Mr. Kimmel: Yes, at least a 2 year wait. Mr. Abbey: Toll Road has a great reputation. Chairman Smith: I just wanted everyone to get an idea of this project. Mr. Marzullo: Maybe you can look into a second access for the senior project. I am not sure it is needed but warrants discussion. Mr. Bragman: The road pattern is pretty much the same as it was previously approved. We tried to keep that same going forward. I think we would be safe to say that we will make application soon for site plan and Board approval. We hope to be in November. Ms. Kimmel: We go to application December 3rd. If we are successful, we will hear in May or June. They like us to break ground 60 days from that. I think his words were as long as I don’t screw this up, this will come in as one of the top projects for the region. When they are looking at this project as high on their priority list, we want to make sure we get it ready. Chairman Smith: There is a real need in this community I don’t see any issue. There is going to be a lot of work on the site plan and subdivision but I think it is a great project. Ms. Kimmel: Thank you. Chairman Smith: Do any members of the Board have anything additional? The Board did not have anything further. Mr. Abbey made a motion to adjourn. Mr. Honors seconded the motion. The motion was approved unanimously. Next Scheduled Regular Meeting: Monday, November 9, 2015 at 6:30 PM IN AS MUCH AS THERE WAS NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE BOARD, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:28pm. Submitted by Lisa L. Stewart Planning Board Clerk Download 67,6 Kb. Do'stlaringiz bilan baham:
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