Guard Geoff Landry: "The experience became more than just participating in
the experiment. What I mean to say is that if this was an experiment, the results
and products were almost too real. When a prisoner gives you a glassy stare, and
mumbles inaudibly, you just almost have to perceive the worst. It's almost be-
cause you fear that the worst will happen. It's almost as if I accepted it would hap-
pen, and the slightest indication of anxiety and breakdown is the beginning of
the worst possible effects. Specifically, the experience became more than just an
experiment when 1037 started acting as though he was breaking down. At this
time I was afraid and apprehensive and thought of quitting. And I also was think-
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ing of asking to become a prisoner. I felt as though I didn't want to become part of
the machine that beats down on other men and forces them to conform and con-
tinually harasses them. I almost wished that I was being harassed than having to
be the harasser."
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In this context, it is interesting to note that on Wednesday night, this guard
had reported to the Warden that his shirt was too tight and was irritating his skin,
so he took it off. Obviously, since he had selected it, had tried it on for fit the day be-
fore we began, and had worn it for four days with no complaints, his problem was
more mental than material. We arranged for him to get a larger size, which he put
on reluctantly. He also kept taking off his sunglasses and not remembering where
he had put them when the staff asked why he was not following standard guard
protocol.
Guard Ceros: "I hated the whole fucking experiment. I walked out the door
when the experiment was over. It was too real for me."
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On the Quiet Rage of Guard Sadism
Doug-8612, in an interview he did later for a student-directed film on our study,
eloquently compared the Stanford Prison Experiment with real prisons he had
come to know as a staff member working in a California prison:
"The Stanford Prison was a very benign prison situation, and it still caused
the guards to become sadistic, prisoners to become hysterical, other prisoners to
break out in hives. Here you have a benign situation, and it didn't work. It pro-
moted everything a regular prison promotes. The guard role promotes sadism.
The prisoner role promotes confusion and shame. Anybody can be a guard. It's
harder to be on guard against the impulse to be sadistic. It's a quiet rage, malevo-
lence, you can keep down but there's nowhere for it to go; it comes out sideways,
sadistically. I think you do have more control as a prisoner. Everybody needs to
[experience being] a prisoner. There are real prisoners I have met in jail who are
people of exceptional dignity, who did not put down the guards, who were always
respectful of the guards, who did not create in the guards a sadistic impulse, who
could rise above the shame of the role. They knew how to preserve their dignity in
that situation."
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On the Nature of Prisons
Clay-416: "The guards are as locked in as you are as prisoners. They just have the
run of the cellblock, but they have a locked door behind them which they can't
open, and so really you're all together and what you create, you create together.
Prisoners have no society of their own and the guards don't have any society of
their own. It's one thing and it's hideous."
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Guard Ceros: "[When] a prisoner reacted violently toward me, I found that
I had to defend myself, not as me but as me the guard. . . . He hated me as the
guard. He was reacting to the uniform. I had no choice but to defend myself as
a guard. It shocked me. . . . I realized that I was just as much a prisoner as they
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