It has been my experience that because of institutional and individual racism

Q.
Did the Black Panther Party advocate violence?
A.
No.
Q.
This was all peaceful?
A.
Well, by advocate violence, if you’re saying to the point that they teach
you to go out and attack people, no, I’ve never been taught by the Black
Panther Party to attack any individual or organization.
Q.
Were phrases such as “kill the pigs” affiliated with the Black Panther
Party?
A.
Affiliated with all organizations during that time. That was, I guess, for
lack of a better word, it was a political rhetoric at the time.
Q.
What did that phrase mean?
A.
I guess it meant a lot of different things to different people. I know to the
Black Panther Party it didn’t mean literally to kill anyone, it was more or
less defining the cause or to rally the cause to fight against police
corruption, police racism, government racism, government corruption.
Q.
Did you use the phrase?
A.
Yes.
Q.
In what context would you use the phrase?
A.
As I said, it was a part of political culture, political rhetoric that was being
used at that time.
Q.
Was a raised clenched fist a symbol of the Black Panther Party?
A.
It was a symbol of all organizations at that time. It was a symbol of unity.
It has been misunderstood and misquoted over the years but the clenched
fist meant you were in unity and there was strength.
Q.
Unity of what?
A.
Unity of the community, unity of the people of America against
government corruption, unity of people, workers against unfair working
conditions.
Q.
Do you think the government was corrupt at that time?
A.
Yes, I did.

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