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Track 37
Interviewer: 
So, we have Phyllis Bailey here to ta lk to us about fame. Her new book, 
Famous fo r Fifteen M inutes
is coming out on Monday. So Phyllis, welcom e. What do you th in k fame means to us these days?
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Well, fam ous people are everywhere and although we know nearly a ll there is to know about these 
people - th e ir lives are splashed alt over magazines and television - they’ve retained th e ir m ystery.
The public are always eager to find out more about them and this fuels the paparazzi to photograph 
them . It’s true th a t there are m ore celebrities around than ever before, but the num ber of really 
im p orta nt fam ous people probably hasn’t changed greatly. This is because people became fam ous 
fo r only a sh ort tim e . Andy W arhol once fam ously said, 'In the future, everyone w ill be fam ous fo r 
fifteen m inutes’, and I th in k th e re ’s some tru th in that. One day a person is fam ous and the next they 
are fo rg o tte n . Take, fo r example, contestants on reality television shows. A fte r maybe six m onths we 
never see them again. This also highlights a nother characteristic of fame: in the past people became 
fam ous because of som ething they had done, o r because of th e ir talent. Nowadays these things a ren't 
necessary. I personally th in k th is is a great pity.
Is fam e p a rtic u la rly beneficial now?
W e ll let's look at the w inn ers and losers w hen it com es to fame. Many people th in k th a t ce le brities 
are the losers in th is new media w o rld , but th a t is n 't necessarily the case. Take, fo r exam ple, actors 
and actresses. They often com plain about a lack of privacy, but privacy is possible. There are many 
ce le brities who a re n 't constantly in the papers. Much as they com plain, they chase the p ub licity and 
then blam e it on the media. In fact, the paparazzi, who photograph the rich and fam ous, are often 
seen as fig ures of hate fo r this. They come off much w orse in the end, because they are so disliked 
by the public and c e le b ritie s . But in reality, they are m aking the ce le b ritie s and th e ir m anagers 
even richer. In fact, because of the c u lt of fam e nowadays, we can see media executives m aking 
even m ore m oney and ce le b ritie s signing m u lti-m illio n pound deals. And who pays fo r this? Well, 
a ll of us. Cinema and concert tic k e t prices have risen and DVDs cost m ore than ever. M erchandising 
m akes a fo rtun e fo r the fam ous these days. And although we are paying fo r it, the rew ards go to only 
a s m a ll elite - the big players, the sta rs and the executives, but they m iss a lot of the creative talent 
in the industry, like the people who w rite the screenplays. They are s till on the same salary they 
w ere on ten years ago. Executives ce rta inly have a d iffic u lt job m anaging th e ir clients, but they get 
rewarded w e ll fo r doing so. I fo r one th in k these rew ards should be m ore fa irly spread.
How could th is be done? Are you ...?
Thank you fo r coming along to the C ultu ra l Sydney talk. I'm going to sta rt by te llin g you about the 
Yellow Plaque scheme, which has been running in Sydney fo r over forty years and has been incredibly 
successful. When you are w alking around the city, you’ll see some buildings w ith a s m a ll round yellow
plaque on them . If you take a closer look, y o u 'll see the name and details of a fam ous person who 
lived in that very place. We have, at present, 130 plaques up in the city. The schem e has been great 
fo r to urism , but it was really started to raise awareness of the rich history of Sydney, both locally 
and nationally, and we th in k we've managed to do th is . We also wanted to make people aware of the 
impressive lis t of im p orta nt people who have lived in this city, and we've certainly achieved th a t. But 
th a t’s not all. Although not part of o ur o rig in a l aims, the schem e has also helped preserve some of 
the o ld e r and m ore im p orta nt buildings in Sydney because people now know th at these buildings are a 
link to o ur past; some of the buildings are actually over 180 years old, which, fo r Australia, is ancient! 
We actually th in k th at this is w here the schem e has achieved the m ost success: in raising the profile of 
our rich history. Of course, it has helped to urism , but not only that, locals also w a lk around looking at 
the plaques. It has been really w on de rful in highlighting o ur past. Some people are quite surprised to 
see who has lived here; take Errol Flynn fo r example. He was m arried in Sydney.
We are planning on putting m ore plaques up and a com m on question is how can people nom inate 
a fig ure to be put on a plaque. It’s quite a sim ple process. A pplications can be downloaded fro m o ur 
w ebsite. If you w ant to nom inate som eone fo r a plague you just need the person's name, w here they 
lived and you need three sign atures to approve v o u r a p p lica tio n . Our panel then checks th a t a ll the 
data you've su bm itted is c o rre c t and hopefully, w ith in a year a new plaque w ill be erected. But you 
can’t nom inate ju s t anyone! A plaque can only be given to a person who is fam ous and has achieved 
som ething out of the ordinary, like an im p o rta n t p oliticia n or w o rld -re c o rd breaking sportsm an, 
fo r exam ple. We aim to have fifty new plaques up w ith in the next three years, and we have plenty of

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