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Seminars@Hadley
Judo for Recreation and Self-Defense
Presented by

Robert Simpson


Moderated by

Larry Muffett


August 21, 2013
Larry Muffett

Welcome to Seminars at Hadley. My name is Larry Muffett; I'm a member of Hadley Seminars Team, and I also work in curricular affairs. Today's seminar topic is Judo for Recreation and Self-Defense. Our presenter today is Robert Simpson of Ft. Worth, Texas. Robert was a member of the world blind judo team in 1998 and helped the US bring home a team silver medal. Robert holds a fourth-degree black belt in traditional jui jitso; a fourth-degree black belt in small circle jui jitso; a third-degree black belt in jui jitso in judo I should say and a second degree black belt in hand bow jitso a self-defense method with a cane. Today Robert's going to be sharing his insights with you on judo as a source of recreation, as a way to get physically fit and also its role in self-defense. Now, without any further ado let me welcome Robert; I'm going to turn the microphone to him at this time.


Robert Simpson

Good afternoon everyone, my name is Robert Simpson. I'm legally blind; I was born this way; I have what's known as Leber's Optic Atrophy. I've been studying judo now for about 25 years, and before we go any further Mr. Larry Muffett has given me permission to dedicate this seminar to the memory of Chief Flowers, who is a very good friend of mine who I've known for the better part of 20 years. Mr. Flowers was in law enforcement; he was also a Vietnam veteran and passed away earlier this month so thank you very much, and I would like to dedicate this seminar to Leon Flowers.


I first got started in judo back in 1992. I had done karate and tai quan do and other types of martial arts but found I was having trouble keeping up with both their hands and their feet at that same time. When I was first introduced to judo I found you could do a lot with your hands and what I mean by that is when we touch a person you can feel their movements. You have a sense of when they're on balance, off balance and things of that nature.
Judo is the gentle way is what it means; ju meaning gentle and do meaning way. It's the gentle way however, if it's used for self-defense, it's not so gentle for the person on the receiving end. Judo is played on a tatami or a mat it's about 2" thick. You learn all types of throwing, grappling, arm bars, shine waza which are choking techniques. Choking techniques designed to put a person to sleep not affect their wind pipe in any way to cause any damage.
Like Mr. Muffett said in 1998, I was a member of the world blind judo team; have been fortunate enough to train out at the Olympic Training Center with the sighted guys as well as the blind team. Went to Japan and helped the US to bring home a team silver. I also have many other silver and bronze medals and trophies for my judo accomplishments and achievements over the years.
I first got into judo because I had a really nasty temper and wanted to learn how to control my temper, and it was great for me. Judo for me helped to build self-confidence, self-esteem, self-awareness, and mainly kept me physically fit. I'm 47 years old, people who see me and look at me; they ask me my age. I tell them, and they're like well you don't look like your 47, and I like to attribute that to my physical fitness and what judo has done for me.
Jiu jitso is the parent heart of judo. A long time ago a gentleman named Jigoro Kano introduced judo as a sport to the Olympic community. He was a jiu jitso master; he held a tenth degree black belt in jiu jitso. What he noticed was at these jiu jitso tournaments is that people couldn't get up, wouldn't get up, or they were dead. He thought to himself well there has to a better way to practice this with mutual welfare and benefit for mankind and womankind, of course. He devised kodokan judo, kodokan meaning school, and pretty much what he did was eliminated bone breaking, knee striking for kicking, elbow striking in place of punching and that kind of thing and devised a sport judo.
Judo a lot of people I've talked to said well yeah but judo's a sport. How could it be a viable self-defense? Well, you could ask the same question of boxing and other sports as well. Judo is a viable self-defense because if you throw somebody to the ground, they're going to get hurt. There's no other two ways to say it, no other two ways to soften it. They're going to get hurt. Judo teaches a person how to fall, the correct way to fall. You learn front falls; left side falls; right side falls, how to fall backwards by tucking your chin so as to not hit your head.
You learn ukemi waza, which is really how to roll safely, and you start out in any club or dojo. You might join a dojo is a practice place martial arts. You start out doing the very basics learning how to fall, which is very important. I became such a good faller that they said I could make anyone look good. I've helped many people take many, many falls from them in judo so that they could and achieve their black belt straight on.
I would say in the State of Texas perhaps maybe in the country I've taken more falls than the average judo person. Now to achieve your black belt in judo you have to be willing to stand there and let the person whose testing throws you 40 times. There are 40 main throws of judo known as the gokyo no waza. I can explain how to do and demonstrate all 40 throws. However, for tournament purposes and self-defense purposes, you will probably only master two or three that are what's called bread and butter throws. Any ways like I say I've helped a lot of persons male and female of all age groups achieve and obtain their black belts and am proud to be a part of this seminar here today.
I am currently a USA Judo member. I hold a National Coaching Certificate and credential, and I am currently working with USA Judo to get a blind and visually impaired program started here in Ft. Worth, Texas.
What I did was I achieved my black belt in [one-arm] first. What I mean by that is you heard Mr. Muffett gave you a list of black belts that I currently hold. I'll go through them one more time. I currently hold a nidan and hand bow. Hand bow is a 36" tall rattan stick bamboo is hollow rattan would be the fibers. Japanese police and Pilipino police they use this particular type of stick for crowd control and things of that nature. You learn to do a bunch of kodos and drills and ceremonial type things with the hand bow as you achieve your black belt in hand bow. It now gets a crook on the end of it and a walking cane, and you can then take and use the crook to like to pull people's heels out from under them, give wrist locks, things of that nature.
My main one and my forte is judo. I currently hold a sondan or a third-degree black belt in judo. I have off into jukuro which is a particular type of jiu jitso. It's small circle jiu jitso done in a very confined space or small space and traditionally jiu jitso is a more I don't like to go there, but if I have to it's more of your crippling, mainly that type of jiu jitso.
I like to when I'm doing a clinic or seminar I like to describe to people that small circle jiu jitso is like doing jiu jitso in a phone booth. A lot of times I'll be talking to younger people, and they'll look at me blank you know eyes and then I have to take a minute to realize oh yeah these are younger folks, they probably will never see a phone booth if they don't realize what a phone booth is being born in the age of iPods and note pads and iPads, iPhones or whatever. Good kind of technology.
That's a little bit about my credentials and my background. I am a sensei, sensei in Japanese means teacher. You'll notice if any of you have done martial arts, especially Japanese based martial arts before when you enter into a dojo and you leave the dojo you bow. You see the Japanese people rarely shake hands like we do. Bowing is a form of greeting, and it's a sign of respect. A sign of respect for the many instructors and sensei's that have come before you; and a sign of respect for the many that will come after you. You bow; you wear what's the gi; this is a martial arts uniform. It's very, very thick it's not like tai quan do qis or your heavy karate gis this is a very, very thick gi it's almost like. How do I describe it? It's kind of like a thick quilted material made of cotton. They come in single and double weaves and white and blue. The current tournament colors that you'll commonly see people training in and wearing in a dojo.
Caller

Robert I just have a question I know from the Braille office hours. But I'm in judo and I currently hold a green belt, and I won my first two matches at the Canadian National Exhibition here in Canada and I really enjoy the sport.


Larry Muffett

We want to hold questions until the question and answer period. Okay John, thanks.


Robert Simpson

I used to be afraid to leave my house. I didn't know much back in the day on how to take care of myself, and I'm sure these are concerns that a lot of visually impaired and blind persons have. Through the study of judo, I became more confident, more aware of my surroundings and just more physically fit then I had been when I first started. I'm kind of at a loss here I lost my train of thought hold on.


I dedicated many, many, many hours to the study of judo. When I first got started, I was doing judo six days a week, three to four hours a day. After about four or five years, I became burnt out as they say slacked off a little bit. I still go and participate in tournaments I still instruct, but I'm down to like three four days a week now two and three hours a day. I love it. If you're going to be serious about it like I am I would also a lot of my friends they say well, you went off the deep end with it.
Well, yes I made a lot of sacrifices tournaments do cost money. There's the cost of transportation to get there, there's a cost of registering with a governing body like USA Judo. Most of your tournaments all of your tournaments are sanctioned through USA Judo, which is the governing body. It's also the governing body of Born's Judo. A lot of times you may have to cut back on things. I wouldn't go out to the movies with my friends; I wouldn't go out and have a few drinks; I would take that money, and I would save it for the cost of getting to a tournament, the entry fee things of that nature. Yes, you make a lot of sacrifices. If you're married or you have a partner you might make sacrifices not going out this particular week to put some money aside for your uniform or things of that nature. But it's very rewarding for me in the end, I know that I'm quite capable of taking care of myself if need be and my friends whoever I may be out with in public.
I do have some usable vision; I wear dark glasses during the day to keep the glare and the sun out of my eyes. I don't I have been trained through Cris Cole, which is our school for teaching the visually impaired and blind vocational skills and things of that nature. I do have a white cane. I just don't like to use it because I always have this mindset that it if anyone's looking at a crowd. See criminals they kind of like a crime of opportunity and if they see somebody with a white cane, they might figure hey this person's an easy mark or this is an opportune time to do something criminal towards this person. I use a cane with a crook. I've only been approached once in a negative manner on the street and was able to quickly dispatch. Not you know I didn't hurt them severe they needed they couldn't get up and walk away they had they needed an ambulance but there was no, they still were able to keep their life and things of that nature.
If I remember right I think he broke his arm on the way down when I threw him off my hip or something like that because he reached for the ground and his arm hit. Then shortly thereafter hit the back of his head and got stunned and had a concussion. The police were able to get an ambulance to this person. I don't like going there if I don’t have to; I like to try to be a very easy kind of going with the flow kind of person. I don't like violence, I actually deplore it. But if need be kana will like I said again take care of myself.
Larry Muffett

Hey Robert, would you be up for a few questions at this point?


Robert Simpson

Absolutely, I always love questions.



Larry Muffett

All right Kristen would like to know could you direct us to any resources that explain judo techniques in detail without using pictures or videos. Any suggestions for websites would be especially helpful.


Robert Simpson

Most of the judo information like that unfortunately that I know of right now they do use pictures. If a person is interested in learning judo, and you're visually impaired and blind I recommend that you seek out a local dojo or a person teaching in your area. Find out their credentials, join a class and have them explain the techniques to you by feeling it and understanding what they're doing. As far as I have been like I said to a few websites, and they do explain the techniques visually unfortunately at this time.


Caller

Hi Robert, it's John from Nova Scotia, I'm sorry I butted in earlier, but I wanted to let you know I have a green belt in judo in Canada here. My favorite throw that worked for me is osoto gari. It's a foot throw and you sweep the person's foot, and you eventually throw them to the ground. I got a Nippon for that, and I won my first two fights at the CNE in Toronto, Ontario.



Robert Simpson

All right John, yes I'm quite familiar with osoto gari. Osoto gari is a leg leap technique where you step up next to a person. Let's say if you're facing each other, and you have what's called a grip you might say you like grip like the left arm and the right lapel. You would step forward putting your left leg next to their leg, reaping or sweeping they're leg out from under them and congratulation's youpon is very good you won that match. Most excellent.


Larry Muffett

Robert, Elizabeth has some questions here. She said what is the difference between its S H I A I and kata K A T A? She'd also like you to see if you could describe techniques for throwing someone that you could describe verbally over the presentation?


Robert Simpson

Absolutely, the difference between Shiai it's pronounced and Kata is that Kata; Kata in judo is done with two people, and it's designed to show two things. At least if you do the knogo Kata which I've done and taken a couple of silvers and bronzes in its designed to, let me try this again without tripping over my tongue and my lip getting in the way. It is designed to show three aspects in judo, which is off balancing a person, the movement and the throw itself. A very successful throw I've been successful with is ogoshi, which is a big hip throw. You would if a person grabs a hold of you; you would if you're right handed or left handed take you right arm and reach around behind them securing their waist. Grabbing the left arm pulling it firmly to you, standing with your feet in between their feet and sticking your hip way across to the other side of this person with bent knees and then to throw them, you would simply lock your knees and twist really hard to the right or left and throwing the person off your hip onto the ground or on to the mat. That's a throw I like to do very well.


But that's the difference between Shiai is done more at tournaments. It's a fighting way of doing judo it's very rushed whereas Kata you can generally tend to take your time a little more work at your partner's pace. I love to do the knonago Kata there's just something that's just so graceful about it. But that's the difference Kata is designed to show you an attacker and a defender. Tourey is the one who would attack the person doing the throws in Kata and its pre-arranged it's a pre-arranged set of moves you know what moves you're going to do ahead of time. Whereas in a Shiai competition, you might pull any one of the 40 throws that you know how to do later on out of your hat and win a tournament with that.

Caller

Sensei Robert this is Ann from New York. Have you ever heard of Ninjutsu? I take something called Ninjutsu here in New York.


Robert Simpson

I have heard of Ninjutsu it's a Japanese art of it comes from jiu jitso of the ninja were the Samurai assassins. They would send ninja's into like the rare palace and things of that nature because they had the art of disguise, and they could disappear and do all kinds of leaps and stuff. Flipping, tumbling but yes the ninja were the assassins in the samurai clan but yes, yes I have heard of it.


Larry Muffett

Couple comments, Izzie would like to know what's the simplest technique you would recommend for someone in order to protect themselves from being a victim.


Robert Simpson

The simplest technique I can recommend to a person to keep themselves from being a victim is, first of all, awareness. What I mean by that is if you're out someplace and you have a gut feeling that something isn't right. Guess what, it's probably not right. Make sure you travel in well lite area's things of that nature. There are a number of different foot techniques that you can use in judo diashi rurai, which is an advanced foot sweeping technique. A person usually will stand with one foot forward, one foot backward that foot that's closest to you; it's vulnerable for it to be swept out from them. Say they're standing with their left foot forward you would grab a hold of this person, and you would want to break their balance to their right foot lightening up the weight off of their left foot. You would want to turn your big toe skyward up toward the sky and using your hip and leg and everything you would want to take that person's foot and move it directly in front of you. Sort of taking the leg out from under a table or a chair so to speak and still having a hold to their left arm pull them hard down to the ground.


The average person isn't going to know how to fall and protect their head and tuck their chin to take care of themselves so usually the first thing they're going to hit is the back of the head. Or they do what's called the airplane effect, most people when they fall they want to stick out a limb or two meaning the arms and try to catch themselves and break their fall that way, and this is a mistake. When you're falling you actually want to tuck your chin and go with the fall and not stick your arms out. But the diashi rurai is a good one. Also [gaiy] is another good one.

Larry Muffett

Robert, Donna would like to know, she said she'd like to learn more about how to get into better shape so could we touch on the use of judo as a physical fitness tool, and also she said she'd like to become a more confident individual in her travel.


Robert Simpson

Absolutely, judo is very, very physically demanding especially when you just go through the basics of learning how to fall. There's a lot to getting up and down off the mat. It's said that a judo practice in an evening is equivalent to doing an aerobic exercise. You will use more muscles in judo then you probably will in most any other sport. They're going to teach you how to use every portion of your body to do judo. Your legs, for instance, for reaping or sweeping; your hips for throwing; your hands for hand techniques; you always, always should start at the very, very basics. When you seek out a place to study you should be learning your falls, you should start out on the ground with you chin tucked, seated on your rear end with your hands out in front of you, tucking your chin and just rocking backwards letting your feet and legs come up in the air. Your hands would be kind of crest out in front of you and striking the mat as the belt line to help absorb the shock of the fall. You may do this 10 times to start with.


Then you learn how to do it from a squatting position. Bring your leg your left side right side that's how it's going to become very physically demanding and will help to get you in shape.
Caller

Yes, my name is Duane McNatt. I don't know if there's any judo instructors in my area, but I'm sure they've never taught a blind person. How you make them feel. How do they. How do you make them feel confident about maybe wanting to teach a blind person? Or how do you go about that?


Robert Simpson

Instructors should if an instructor can't teach a visually impaired or blind person self-defense; they're not doing their job right. Every instructor should be able to teach you being visually impaired or blind. They may have to modify certain techniques and modify certain positions but any instructor if he's worth his salt, he or she is worth their salt should be able to instruct you. I was fortunate enough to choose judo because judo starts in what's called a grip. A person has to be able to grab you in order to hurt you, throw you anything like that. What sighted people take for granted is that we can see the same thing they're doing if they would like us feel the technique and explain it to us that way because we can see with our hands and see with our bodies. Any instructor who's a black belt or higher, but they should be able to accommodate you.


I chose judo because of the fact it is a full-contact sport so to speak. There has to be full contact in order to throw the person. If a person is at a distance to me, they really are a threat, knives and things of that matter I've only ever had one knife pulled on me, and that didn't go well. Well it went fine for me but it didn't…. I now have that knife, I collect knives, which is fortunate for me; I now have the knife in my knife collection. Yes, I did get cut.
Let me explain something to you all here. Just because I hold four black belts in the martial arts anyone who pulls a knife on you immediately you have to think this is going to hurt I'm going to get cut. But due to your martial training, you learn how to protect vital organs, your heart, your kidneys, your liver, things of that nature. I hurt it cost me six stitches across my forearm, but like I said it was kind of a nice knife, I'm kind of glad I own it.
Caller

Sensei Robert, do you know a Sensei Devon?


Robert Simpson

I'm not sure what art he studies, and I'm I don't know a lot of people by name, I know them by face. If I've ever seen him at a judo tournament, the chances are pretty great I knew who Sensei Devon is.


Caller

He's my instructor, and he studies ninjutsu.


Robert Simpson

Well, probably if he studies ninjutsu I've probably never seen him at a judo tournament, so I probably don't know him. I want to meet and consort with all martial artists; tai quan do, karate, because they can teach me things each and every day. Just because I'm to the level of where I am I never have the attitude that I know everything because I don't; none of us do. They can teach me things, and it sounds great when black belts get together, and they're like hey. Why don't we take this technique and try this. Hey, yeah that works. I'm always willing to learn and meet new people.


Larry Muffett

Robert, Izzy has a question. He says do you carry and recommend others to use their cane as a weapon as a blind person?


Robert Simpson

I'm sorry could you please could you please repeat that question?


Larry Muffett

Sure, Izzy wants to know do you carry and recommend that others use their cane as a weapon?


Robert Simpson

Absolutely, absolutely that cane is made of fiberglass and as we all know the human bones don't like to be hit with fiberglass. If you have a collapsible kind, the kind that's stick because I've noticed there two different kinds of canes when I going to Cris Cole. There's the long white kind that has a crook on the end of it it's a white one. I didn't want to stare at the person, so I didn't look closely enough to see if it was collapsible. But I noticed that the collapsible telescoping ones that I learned how to use when I using to Cris Cole I think fold down into four sections. If you now take that, and you find the half way mark, and you now bend that cane in half you'll have a pretty formidable weapon for self-defense.


I recommend doing a slanting striking type of motion as opposed to the jabbing type of motion. Then you do you want to hit things like the fingers because that hurts. The elbows, the knees, any kind of jamming is going to hurt because there's no muscles usually to protect your elbows, knees and fingers and things of that nature.

Larry Muffett

Robert can you touch the idea of using judo as a technique to build your self-confidence. We have people out there that because of their blindness or visual impairment probably could use that to give off that aura of somebody that is totally self-confident in a situation. Can you sort of discuss using judo to build that sense of being very confident in your travels?


Robert Simpson

Absolutely, I will try. When we study martial arts for a period of time, I think its John said that he won a tournament, he got two pins. You notice that you start to carry yourself differently. You walk more confidently you're not constantly looking towards the ground when you move out in public. I notice then when I walk into a room, I guess call it arrogance or just my years of martial arts training I'm sizing up the room. In this day and age, of terrorism and criminal elements and things of that nature you always need to be aware of what's going on around you. If you live in a small community where there's a lot of window shops and you have usable vision if you think somebody's following you stop and do some window shopping look through that plate-glass window. Stand there for a little bit there's no law and watch this person through the glass.


If you're walking, and you smell I don't know let's say a group of boys who may be hanging out on a stoop or hanging out in a doorway, and you smell that sweet smell of someone using marijuana. Go the opposite direction you don't have to walk by them. Look up smile, look like you belong don't look like an outsider.
Larry Muffett

We've got a couple of questions about the sport itself. Constance would like you to explain the difference between judo and karate. Then Elizabeth wants to know if the techniques used in judo are simpler to learn than tai quan do.


Robert Simpson

The difference between judo and karate is karate is done you're standing by yourself you go through a bunch of different kato's. You fight an imaginary opponent. Judo you actually have to make contact with somebody. Somebody's grabbing a hold of your judo top or your judo gi your jacket, and you're grabbing a hold of them. Whatever is your favorite throw that you're trying to develop you move around the mat, and you try to feel when it's the right time to oh hey check this out. I can get this leg reap, or I can get this foot sweep. It's done through your sense of touch.


Whereas karate I find is very visual you have to be able to see their hands and feet. Know when a person is fixing to throw a punch or kick. Whereas you don't need to know that in judo, you can feel what a person's about to do from their movement. What was the second part of that question please?
Larry Muffett

The second part was do you know if the techniques used in judo are simpler to learn than tai quan do.


Robert Simpson

No, I'm not going to sugar coat it; judo is very difficult and to grasp the concept of. It's going to take you a while. It's my [feeling] that anybody can stand that with their right foot forward and their left hand out in a fist protecting their knee and do a reverse punch. Tai quan do is easier to learn than judo. Judo is going to take a lot mentally. You're going to have to want to learn judo it is very physically demanding. No, judo is not easier to learn than tai quan do. However, if you have usable vision, and you like tai quan do you should pursue it. I often get asked this question, which martial art do you think is better? There is no better martial art per sae it's whatever the individual is best suited for. In other words, if you find that grappling is something that you like to do, which judo is a grappling art, you should go for it. If you find that you like tai quan do or karate you should study it and become very proficient at it. Proficiency is going to be the most important part of any martial arts training. Whatever you put into it is going to be what you get out of it.


What do I mean by that? Two or three days a week is what a person needs to be proficient at by studying any kind if martial art. You have to go there with a purpose in mind. I'm here to train; I'm not here to converse with anybody. If you find that there's a particular type of person that likes to do a lot of [kyakiato] which is flapping their gums I believe in Italian. You might not want to work with this person anymore. Work with serious, dedicated people.
Larry Muffett

Elizabeth wanted just wanted to go ahead and share with you that she has no usable vision. She found it difficult learning tai quan do so I suspect that judo might be a good option for her. Krista also wanted to offer to the group an FYI there's a good article about coaching judo for people who are blind on www.judoinfo.com that's J U D O I N F O .COM. The website appears to have been redesigned in the past few months and isn't as accessible as it used to be she says.


Robert Simpson

Yes, also I have a contact person his name is Mark Vink. He is the team leader for Born Judo throughout the country I believe. He's based at USA Judo which is at One Olympic Training Center, which is at the Olympic Colorado Springs Training Center beautiful facility, by the way very, very beautiful facility. His name is Coach Mark Vink that's V as in Victor, I as in Indian, N as in Nancy, K as in Kero and his phone number if you will give a minute here; his phone number is area code 609-605-3495 again that's area code 609-605-3495. He's the team leader for the worldwide judo team located at One Olympic Plaza in Colorado Springs, Colorado.


Larry Muffett

Ann also is adding to the group to check out Third Eye Insight www.thirdeyeinsight.com I'll go ahead and copy that into the chat box room here. I'm going to turn the microphone loose here for a couple minutes. If there's questions go ahead, and you've got the opportunity to ask an expert here in a number of martial arts fields, so we should all take advantage of that. I'm going to turn the microphone loose here and if anyone has any questions, you can either type them in the text box, or I will relay them on.



Robert Simpson

If I could I appreciate your confidence in me, I never like to consider myself an expert a person who is well versed well versed in a couple of different martial arts. To me expert it just makes it sound like you know everything.


Caller

Robert I'd like to commend you on all the martial arts you learned. I understand how physically demanding judo is. But I loved it the four years I took it, I loved it, and I really enjoyed it. I'd like to commend you for all your great work and all the martial arts you took, and I like I remember bowing to the sensei as well. I remember when I got my gold at the CME, they said that I was blind and that these were the first two fights I ever won and they right away the coach took the strips off my belt, I was third-degree green and he took the strips off my belt within. He wanted to see some pictures back in here, in Cape Brenton. I showed him the pictures and I showed him too that I was able to make it work, and he took the stripes off my belt.


Caller

Do you know if you can do the judo tournaments for like state wide or do you have go nationwide to do them?


Robert Simpson

That's a very good question. Yes, you can do local judo tournaments. You'll start out locally that's where I started out. Depending on how many wins you have you can be nationally ranked. You can get scholarships for judo for college. But yes depending on how many tournaments you enter and win. I'm internationally ranked because of my experience with the worldwide team in Japan. So yes you start out locally and the main important thing I want to tell you all is never get discouraged. Judo is like any other game. You're going to have your good days, and you're going to have your bad days. We can't always, always, always be on top of our game. We just can't as kind of human beings. There are going to be good days and there are going to be bad days. But just remember hang in there persistence what you put into it, you will get out of it. But yes you will start at a local level first and then just keep practicing, and you'll be nationally ranked and soon before you know it you'll be on your way to Brazil or someplace like that. Depending upon how well you do there you'll get international recognition.


Caller

Robert its John here I have a question. Were you allowed to use your arm bars and chokes in the US? I know in Nova Scotia, they made it a rule specifically that I was I had to learn the arm bars and chokes for my different belt qualifications, but I wasn't able to use them. The chokes and arm bars.


Robert Simpson

I learned as much as good doing judo, including arm bars and chokes because you don't have them used against you in tournament. I recommend you learn it all and use it. I don't know what organization you're excuse me just a minute.


Larry Muffett

Elizabeth yes the answers yes I will put up an on screen survey that you can fill out at the end of this seminar, which will be in about five minutes.


Caller

Okay thank you.


Robert Simpson

Yes, like I was saying I learned everything from the [floor], from the ground work to the choking, pinning, arm barring because like I say you're going to have them used against you in a tournament. It's good to know how to defend against them. That's where I recommend learning as much of it as you can. Be like a healthy sponge wanting to absorb as much water as you possibly can and then wring yourself out and absorb much, much more water. Stick with one thing and become proficient at it before you move on to another. There's nothing wrong with being a multi-martial arts practitioner. Stick with one achieve your black belt in one and then move on to the next. I stuck with Japanese based because most of the terminology is the same. Ososotgon was ososotgon and if you're in a tournament in Russia or a clinic or a tournament in Japan, you're going to recognize a lot of the words. Whereas if you do Japanese and Korean, you may not recognize what's being said at a Japanese tournament. I kept mine pretty much all Japanese based.


Caller

One more question Sensei Robert. Do you know tai sabaki that's the turning different turns and different clock wise?


Robert Simpson

Absolutely, tai sabki's going to become very important to you when you do judo. You're being able to fit into a technique is going to rely on having good tai sabaki. I can tell by that term you've been at this for a while because not everybody pronounces it that well and not everybody knows what that is. I'd say ninjutsu is working for you. Keep up the good work, keep up the good work that was a very good question.


Caller

Thanks I'll mention it to my Sensei Devon when I go on Saturday and check out the website www.thirdeyeinsight.org. Oh yeah he loves the publicity.


Larry Muffett

Robert we're getting near the end of today's seminar so what I'd like for you to do if you would is I'd like you to give a 30 or 45 minute very short, very succinct speech for those of you who are thinking for those who are with us today who are thinking about taking judo, but they're not quite sure. Let's give them a 30 or 45-second speech with your best persuasion about why they should get involved with judo.


Robert Simpson

Why should you get involved with judo? Judo is very practical and most of your fights you're going to or most of your confrontation's self-defense wise obviously are going to involve you and somebody else. You’re not just going to stand there and fight the air like they do in karate and tai quan do and there's no one there in front of you. Judo you had to be you have to physically lay your hands on another person and move around the mat with them so that you can feel their movements, and you know when they're on and off balance. Being off balance can opponent they belong to you. I like it like I said because I find it to be very practical because of the way judo is done. Grabbing a hold of another person's gi, moving with them, feeling them and when now is the time to move in well I should try this oh that didn't work okay well I'll come back, and I'll try something else. It's very rewarding I can practice judo and learning how to fall, guess what you'll be able to hit that mat, get back up and come back and [turn to them and swing].


Karate if a person kicks you; they kick you right and they kick you in the right place, and they crack a rib guess what. You're out of practice for a while. That's another reason why I recommend judo. It teaches you like mutual welfare benefits for all mankind. You can practice this over and over and over again with very low risk of injuring the other person. You develop a certain bond, and you want to keep learning it so that you can come back and practice next week.
Larry Muffett

Thank you Robert. This seminar like all our seminars will be archived on our website and available for your use any time around the clock. Also each Hadley Seminar is now made available as a podcast which you can download to your computer or mobile device. If today's seminar has you interested in this particular topic please check out the Hadley website and our seminar archives. Robert and I thank you for your participation. Your questions were outstanding and really added to the value of this seminar. Hadley values your feedback. Please let us know what you thought about today's seminar and please give us suggestions for future topics. One way you can do that is by dropping us an email to feedback@hadley.edu that's F E E D B A C K @Hadley.edu. I'm going to hand the microphone back over to Robert for some closing remarks.


Robert Simpson

Thank you very much for having me in your house. Thank you again for letting me present this seminar and again thank you so much for letting me dedicate this to my friend Chief Flowers. Just know that don't get discouraged know that Rome wasn't built in a day. Go with a positive attitude and if you know martial art the basics of something else, and you decide you want to try judo, I would recommend leave that other martial art kind of at the door. Go in there and learn to grasp, begin to learn and give it a time period give it I don't know say six months and if in six months if you can honestly tell yourself that you're not getting any benefit out of this, I recommend you move on to something else. But I pretty much can guarantee that if you give yourself six months, and you dedicate yourself to it; you're going to find that judo is pretty fascinating. I know I did. Also keep in mind something that maybe might help you want to strive to be good is know that there's worldwide judo team out there. They are a formidable team to be reckoned with; they are a formidable team to be reckoned with. I have had my behind handed to me okay. Understand what I'm saying.


I've gone to tournaments and I've had my behind handed to me by totally blind judo players. They go every place that the Olympic team goes when they train. They may train two weeks later the paraolympic team but hey go every place the sighted team goes. I know a lot of sighted people that get awfully nervous when blind players come out onto the mat. They know once you learn a technique, whether you're sighted, visually impaired, blind they know that you know that technique and have you ever heard a person saying the eyes will deceive you. Well, if you're looking down at your feet to give your technique away a sighted person really doesn't know how to why isn't he looking off into space, and he's able to throw me like that. It's because he's not looking down he's not giving away what he or she is about to do that's why.
Larry Muffett

Thanks Robert I really appreciate you sharing this with us. Chief Flowers was going to be part of this seminar. He was going to talk about some self-protection and self-defense from a law enforcement standpoint. Unfortunately, he passed away here recently, and that's why Robert wanted to dedicate this seminar to him. I want to personally thank all of you for taking the time to be part of this seminar and again, your questions and comments were quite valuable and made it fun for all of us. But if you do have comments, you can send that information to feedback@hadley.edu, and you provide us some feedback that way and I certainly encourage you to do so. I thank you very much for your participation today and good-bye for now.



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