"Of physics--science."
"Oh!
That
must be the reason," he said.
"Reason for what?"
He said, "You see, I'm a stenotypist, and I type everything that is said here. Now, when the other fellas talk, I type what they say, but I don't
understand what they're saying. But every time
you
get up to ask a question or to say something, I understand exactly what you mean--what the
question is, and what you're saying--so I thought you
can't
be a professor!"
There was a special dinner at some point, and the head of the theology place, a very nice, very Jewish man, gave a speech. It was a good speech,
and he was a very good speaker, so while it sounds crazy now, when I'm telling about it, at that time his main idea sounded completely obvious and
true. He talked about the big differences in the welfare of various countries, which cause jealousy, which leads to conflict, and now that we have
atomic weapons, any war and we're doomed, so therefore the right way out is to strive for peace by making sure there are no great differences from
place to place, and since we have so much in the United States, we should give up nearly everything to the other countries until we're all even.
Everybody was listening to this, and we were all full of sacrificial feeling, and all thinking we ought to do this. But I came back to my senses on the
way home.
The next day one of the guys in our group said, "I think that speech last night was so good that we should all endorse it, and it should be the
summary of our conference."
I started to say that the idea of distributing everything evenly is based on a
theory
that there's only X amount of stuff in the world, that somehow
we took it away from the poorer countries in the first place, and therefore we should give it back to them. But this theory doesn't take into account the
real
reason for the differences between countries--that is, the development of new techniques for growing food, the development of machinery to
grow food and to do other things, and the fact that all this machinery requires the concentration of capital. It isn't the
stuff
, but the power to
make
the
stuff, that is important. But I realize now that these people were not in science; they didn't understand it. They didn't understand technology; they
didn't understand their time.
The conference made me so nervous that a girl I knew in New York had to calm me down. "Look," she said, "you're shaking! You've gone
absolutely nuts! Just t ake it easy, and don't take it so seriously. Back away a minute and look at what it is." So I thought about the conference, how
crazy it was, and it wasn't so bad. But if someone were to ask me to participate in something like that again, I'd shy away from it like mad--I mean
zero! No! Absolutely not! And I still get invitations for this kind of thing today.
When it came time to evaluate the conference at the end, the others told how much they got out of it, how successful it was, and so on. When
they asked me, I said, "This conference was worse than a Rorschach test: There's a meaningless inkblot, and the others ask you what you think you
see, but when you tell them, they start arguing with you!
Even worse, at the end of the conference they were going to have another meeting, but this time the public would come, and the guy in charge of
our group has the
nerve
to say that since we've worked out so much, there won't be any time for public discussion, so we'll just
tell
the public all the
things we've worked out. My eyes bugged out: I didn't think we had worked out a damn thing!
Finally, when we were discussing the question of whether we had developed a way of having a dialogue among people of different disciplines--
our second basic "problem"--I said that I noticed something interesting. Each of us talked about what we thought the "ethics of equality" was, from
our own point of view, without paying any attention to the other guy's point of view. For example, the historian proposed that the way to understand
ethical problems is to look historically at how they evolved and how they developed; the international lawyer suggested that the way to do it is to see
how in fact people actually act in different situations and make their arrangements; the Jesuit priest was always referring to "the fragmentation of
knowledge"; and I, as a scientist, proposed that we should isolate the problem in a way analogous to Galileo's techniques for experiments; and so on.
"So, in my opin ion," I said, "we had no dialogue at all. Instead, we had nothing but chaos!"
Of course I was attacked, from all around. "Don't you think that order can come from chaos?"
"Uh, well, as a general principle, or . . . I didn't understand what to do with a question like "Can order come from chaos?" Yes, no, what of it?
There were a lot of fools at that conference--pompous fools--and pompous fools drive me up the wall. Ordinary fools are all right; you can talk to
them, and try to help them out. But pompous fools--guys who are fools and are covering it all over and impressing people as to how wonderful they
are with all this hocus pocus--THAT, I CANNOT STAND! An ordinary fool isn't a faker; an honest fool is all right. But a dishonest fool is terrible!
And that's what I got at the conference, a bunch of pompous fools, and I got very upset. I'm not going to get upset like that again, so I won't
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